Ordered it on 23.10.20 and was able to pick it up on 18.11.20. Coincidentally, I got a survey from Digitec on 17.11.20 asking me if I was satisfied etc. I then grumbled about the back and forth ordering process of the Iphone 12 Pro and the next day I was able to pick up the Iphone 12 Pro. Strange coincidence. Anyway, the Iphone 12 Pro is great and worth the wait.